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A. M. Makarieva Theoretical Physics Division, Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, Saint Petersburg, Russia
U.S. Department of Agriculture–China Ministry of Science and Technology Joint Research Center for AgroEcology and Sustainability, University of California, Riverside, Riverside, California

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V. G. Gorshkov Theoretical Physics Division, Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, Saint Petersburg, Russia
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A. D. Nobre Centro de Ciência do Sistema Terrestre, Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espaciais, São José dos Campos, Brazil

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A. V. Nefiodov Theoretical Physics Division, Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, Saint Petersburg, Russia

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D. Sheil Faculty of Environmental Sciences and Natural Resource Management, Norwegian University of Life Sciences, Ås, Norway

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P. Nobre Center for Weather Forecast and Climate Studies, Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espaciais, São José dos Campos, Brazil

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B.-L. Li U.S. Department of Agriculture–China Ministry of Science and Technology Joint Research Center for AgroEcology and Sustainability, University of California, Riverside, Riverside, California

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Abstract

Here we respond to Jaramillo et al.’s recent critique of condensation-induced atmospheric dynamics (CIAD). We show that CIAD is consistent with Newton’s laws while Jaramillo et al.’s analysis is invalid. To address implied objections, we explain our different formulations of “evaporative force.” The essential concept of CIAD is condensation’s role in powering atmospheric circulation. We briefly highlight why this concept is necessary and useful.

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Corresponding author: A. M. Makarieva, ammakarieva@gmail.com

The original article that was the subject of this comment/reply can be found at http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JAS-D-17-0293.1.

Abstract

Here we respond to Jaramillo et al.’s recent critique of condensation-induced atmospheric dynamics (CIAD). We show that CIAD is consistent with Newton’s laws while Jaramillo et al.’s analysis is invalid. To address implied objections, we explain our different formulations of “evaporative force.” The essential concept of CIAD is condensation’s role in powering atmospheric circulation. We briefly highlight why this concept is necessary and useful.

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© 2019 American Meteorological Society. For information regarding reuse of this content and general copyright information, consult the AMS Copyright Policy (www.ametsoc.org/PUBSReuseLicenses).

Corresponding author: A. M. Makarieva, ammakarieva@gmail.com

The original article that was the subject of this comment/reply can be found at http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JAS-D-17-0293.1.

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