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  • a Institute of Atmospheric Physics, The University of Arizona, Tucson 85711
  • | b Department of Meteorology, The University of Utah, Salt Lake City 84112
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Charlock and Herman (1976, hereafter CH) have criticized the formulation of the radiative flux equation of Zdunkowski et al. (ZBL), 1966. While Zdunkowski (Z) finds their paper very interesting, he does not agree with all of their arguments. Instead of writing a comment on their paper, which would precipitate a reply from CH without satisfactorily resolving the argument, we believe it is best to jointly write some comments. This will eliminate misunderstandings since all three authors are in agreement on the basic physics of the problem, but differ in the point of view of how best to apply the Elsasser scheme. In the following we will try to clarify our positions.

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Charlock and Herman (1976, hereafter CH) have criticized the formulation of the radiative flux equation of Zdunkowski et al. (ZBL), 1966. While Zdunkowski (Z) finds their paper very interesting, he does not agree with all of their arguments. Instead of writing a comment on their paper, which would precipitate a reply from CH without satisfactorily resolving the argument, we believe it is best to jointly write some comments. This will eliminate misunderstandings since all three authors are in agreement on the basic physics of the problem, but differ in the point of view of how best to apply the Elsasser scheme. In the following we will try to clarify our positions.

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